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Redstar
here's some light reading for ya. read these threads about DJ A-Man, its rather funny. im sure some of you have seen this guy's threads across various boards. in summary, it all started in his CC thread when i pointed out that he played Airbase "Escape" back in december. soon enough people caught on that there was no way that he could have legally got a copy of that track. in the TA thread, even airbase and menno de jong posted, commenting that he was a pathetic lowlife who is a disgrace to the scene.

i cant post a link to the CC thread, but heres a link to the TA thread.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthr...15&pagenumber=1

here's a list of definite illegally acquired tracks that he's played:


-taken from 23.12.2005 playlist
06) Shane 54 - Vampire (12'' Vocal Club Mix)
10) Airbase - Escape (Original Mix) [MVT #1 of the Week]

- taken from 9.12.2005 playlist
09) Sunny Lax - P.U.M.A. (Original Mix)
10) Mike Shiver - Feelings (G&M Project Mix)

- 25.11.2005 playlist
02) Abel Ramos & Shane 54 - Kippenvelmeter (Alex M.O.R.P.H. Remix)
06) Giuseppe Ottaviani - Linking People (Original Mix)

and his guestmix for O-Team (who i have a few theories about myself). funny how after all of the turmoil in his threads offshooting after he played "Escape", he plays it again in this guestmix a week or so later. laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (O-Team @ January 21st 2006)
1st Hour: O-Team aka Nir Ben-Ami (hostmix)

01 :: Basto - Rock With You (Original Mix) |541|
02 :: Armin van Buuren feat Nadia Ali - Who Is Watching (Remy & Roland Klinkenberg Remix) |Armind|
03 :: Yamin - Almathea (Sander van Dien Remix) |CD-R|
04 :: Kyau vs Albert - Kiksu |White|
05 :: Steve Callaghan - The Element (Ian Betts Remix) |CD-R|
06 :: Enmass - Chunky Monkey |A State Of Trance|
07 :: Solarscape - Alive (Ronski Speed with Stoneface & Terminal Dub Mix) |Profuse|
08 :: Nic Chagall - Monday Bar |High Contrast|
09 :: Airbase - Chamberlain |CD-R|
10 :: Peetu S - Bigger Palace (Dub Mix) |Altitude|
11 :: The Freak - Elektra (Club Mix) |White|
12 :: DJ Shog - Jealousy (Marcel Woods Remix) |Logport|

2nd Hour: DJ A-Man aka Baruch Einav (guestmix)

01 :: Mark Otten vs Abel Ramos & Shane 54 - So Serene vs Kippenvelmeter (DJ A-MAN Crossbridge Mix) |CD-R|
02 :: OceanLab vs Stellar Project - Satellite vs Get Up Stand Up (DJ A-MAN Crossbridge Mix) |CD-R|
03 :: Interstate - Remember Me (Terry Bones Remix) |CD-R|
04 :: Brian Cross - 4 U (Original Mix) |A State Of Trance|
05 :: Goldenscan - Halcyon (Original Mix) |A State Of Trance|
06 :: Ronski Speed with Stoneface & Terminal - Incognition (Club Mix) |Euphonic|
07 :: Airbase - Escape |Intuition|
08 :: Deep Voices - A New Beginning (Astuni & Le Saux Planar Void Remix) |Noizest|
09 :: DJ Atmospherik meets Saucerman - The Anthem |Offshore|
10 :: Phalanx - Symphony in Gminor (Club Mix) |Illuminate|


anyway, thought id share. it certainly gave me a good laugh!
DJ Redsun
so u ruined this guy dry.gif ???
Redstar
QUOTE (DJ Redsun @ Jan 21 2006, 11:46 PM)
so u ruined this guy dry.gif ???

actually, i think he ruined himself. what, you support this guy? he's an illegal dj trying to pass himself off as a privileged and elite dj by playing promos that he never received. hes insulting the artists who've put all the time and energy into their tracks, only to have them downloaded for free. what else do i need to say, this guy deserves whats coming. i dont see it any other way, and i dont understand how you could.
DJ Redsun
QUOTE (DJ Redstar @ Jan 22 2006, 03:53 AM)
QUOTE (DJ Redsun @ Jan 21 2006, 11:46 PM)
so u ruined this guy dry.gif ???

actually, i think he ruined himself. what, you support this guy? he's an illegal dj trying to pass himself off as a privileged and elite dj by playing promos that he never received. hes insulting the artists who've put all the time and energy into their tracks, only to have them downloaded for free. what else do i need to say, this guy deserves whats coming. i dont see it any other way, and i dont understand how you could.

hahahahahahahah maybe i should look better what i put.....i ment the laugh.gif face, not the dry.gif face.....see how it changes what i ment wink.gif
tour
nah the guy isnt ruined, sadly most people dont care if the songs they hear are legal or not, they dont mind supporting a dj who breaks the rules and might be hurting the industry by the dj's actions.
Redstar
haha, had me worried there! from what ive noticed from the past, you were against illegal djs, so i was suprised to read that! yeah, the laugh.gif face probably meant all the difference there laugh.gif

tour - if someone can actually contact the club he spins at, he might lose his job. its not much, but its a start tongue.gif
tour
QUOTE (DJ Redstar @ Jan 21 2006, 09:56 PM)
haha, had me worried there! from what ive noticed from the past, you were against illegal djs, so i was suprised to read that! yeah, the laugh.gif face probably meant all the difference there laugh.gif

i was wondering about that face, but i was kinda hoping you intended to do it, just so i could see redstar vs redsun
DJ Redsun
What if illegal dj's just illegaly download songs that are already out? How would they get caught?
tour
they most likely wouldnt, but that is not the case here, some of the songs mentioned there is no way they could of gotten them from the artists, or legally yet, or in most cases that would be a very unlikely senario that they have promo copies from the label or artist.

now back to the imprtant part, when are you and redstar going to fight? i am watching this thread only for that part, come on lets get it started, my time is valueable you know
DJ Redsun
QUOTE (tour @ Jan 22 2006, 04:15 AM)
they most likely wouldnt, but that is not the case here, some of the songs mentioned there is no way they could of gotten them from the artists, or legally yet, or in most cases that would be a very unlikely senario that they have promo copies from the label or artist.

now back to the imprtant part, when are you and redstar going to fight? i am watching this thread only for that part, come on lets get it started, my time is valueable you know

the creator of above message assumes no liability for people who believe all or any part of said message
tour
QUOTE (DJ Redsun @ Jan 21 2006, 10:19 PM)
QUOTE (tour @ Jan 22 2006, 04:15 AM)
they most likely wouldnt, but that is not the case here, some of the songs mentioned there is no way they could of gotten them from the artists, or legally yet, or in most cases that would be a very unlikely senario that they have promo copies from the label or artist.

now back to the imprtant part, when are you and redstar going to fight? i am watching this thread only for that part, come on lets get it started, my time is valueable you know

the creator of above message assumes no liability for people who believe all or any part of said message

ok you guys need some help, redstar just said you smell funny on messenger, how do you feel about that. (said in my every best eric cartman to kenny voice)
Redstar
lets stick to the topic! DJ A-Man is an idiot and a disgrace rolleyes.gif

read this:

http://forum.etn.fm/viewtopic.php?p=3662#3662
DJ Redsun
QUOTE (DJ Redstar @ Jan 22 2006, 04:27 AM)
lets stick to the topic! DJ A-Man is an idiot and a disgrace rolleyes.gif

read this:

http://forum.etn.fm/viewtopic.php?p=3662#3662

its wrong.......but some many ppl do it.....its a battle u cant win wink.gif
Redstar
QUOTE (DJ Redsun @ Jan 22 2006, 12:31 AM)
QUOTE (DJ Redstar @ Jan 22 2006, 04:27 AM)
lets stick to the topic!  DJ A-Man is an idiot and a disgrace rolleyes.gif

read this:

http://forum.etn.fm/viewtopic.php?p=3662#3662

its wrong.......but some many ppl do it.....its a battle u cant win wink.gif

doesnt mean you cant break the silence and speak out wink.gif
Fledz
01) Jonas Steur vs. EvB - Silent Side of the Moon

Is this freely available or can you buy it? I thought only a few DJs had it? huh.gif Anyway, it's an absolute tune so where can I buy it? laugh.gif

lol at the guys email saying how the DJs allow him to play stuff. FFS Airbase and Menno posted in there saying that they didn't. Where does he get off?
tour
it happens everbody, i have a huge respect level for redstar being pro-active about this, but i want to make another point. this kind of thing is horrilbe, but shouldnt take away from your joy in the music. it happens all the time, and education about this will take months, or more likely years to have an effect. in the mean time while education takes it's effect dont

1. lose your cool, or your personal enjoyment because of people who are ignorant to the harm they are causing (and yes playing unreleased material is very harmful. music already has a very short life in our genre, and releasing it early only shortens that life before it fully begins, that is just the tip of the iceberg)

2. look at these mis-guided people with a grain of salt and pity. i dont see any to correct the problem with any means but education. unlearning something you have learned is very hard as is, and people will never look at the improtant issue unless it is handled in the correct manner. while a flame war makes you feel much better in the short term it doesnt do very much to correct long term problems. teach the offenders, dont be offensive to them, as they will only react with the same.

once again i totally take my hat off to redstar, when i was a high school senior i didnt take on such ambitions, and i respect deeply the time and effort he puts into the community we all enjoy. i dont have enought time to even listen to all the tracks anymore, let alone give back. i hope my suggestions help everybody improve this area for the whole community in general

redstar-now can i go back off topic? or at least get that flame war i was so pumped about started? redsun says people from the east look funny
ToxicNewb
Well, someone has to be made an example of. Imo, he should be burned at the stakes!!! mad.gif
Laura
pwn3d.
maor
another fella from my country...heh thats not new...Israeli people take big parts on MP3 Warez and such...i also recently got a letter from John 00 Fleming complaining about TrueMp3s.com which charges money for IILEGAL mp3s...and the dudes that running it are American and israeli one...anyway

Im not surprised...someone leaked my Remix of Markus Schulz's First time and guess what? he was from my country...

i just had to shout it to tell u guys that this Warez thing is un-stopable :/

and yeah i wrote this beacuse i was really surprised that i found out latley that israeli people are actually has big part in it...(and i always tuoght that trance is not fimillar in israel as in the UK , Netherlands...so what can possibly happend)

cheers
Anjunabeast
QUOTE (DJ Redstar @ Jan 22 2006, 05:27 AM)
lets stick to the topic! DJ A-Man is an idiot and a disgrace rolleyes.gif

read this:

http://forum.etn.fm/viewtopic.php?p=3662#3662

He seemed fairly upfront about it. By the sounds of it, it wasn't actually his fault.

Otherwise, why is it not possible for DJs to buy the promos- off eBay, for example? We all know how often and easily that happens.

Anyway, I remember why I don't go to TA anymore, with all their pop-unders and crap rolleyes.gif
Dave Perry
QUOTE (tour @ Jan 22 2006, 03:56 AM)
nah the guy isnt ruined, sadly most people dont care if the songs they hear are legal or not, they dont mind supporting a dj who breaks the rules and might be hurting the industry by the dj's actions.

i would care. if i heard a track that was definitely not out, not even on promo, i would never listen to this dj again, and probably open a thread somewhere too.
That's just not how this scene works. but maybe that's just the djs' point of view.
minomus
uhh... airbase's escape r0xx0r my s0xx0r!
anyways, announcement: I bought my first tracks from anjunabeats webstore! biggrin.gif
Mike
QUOTE (minomus @ Jan 22 2006, 12:19 PM)
uhh... airbase's escape r0xx0r my s0xx0r!
anyways, announcement: I bought my first tracks from anjunabeats webstore! biggrin.gif

^^ Me too! Theres certainly somthing satisfying about buying from a legal source. I even bought the Xylophone song. tongue.gif B)

I also made a massive order with Audiojelly and spent the night burning songs to CD ready for my CD decks arrival. B)
Elements
QUOTE (maor @ Jan 22 2006, 11:43 AM)
Im not surprised...someone leaked my Remix of Markus Schulz's First time and guess what? he was from my country...

i just had to shout it to tell u guys that this Warez thing is un-stopable :/

this really is out of hand now isnt it. i actully didnt think it was as bad as it was for trance ph34r.gif

I cant imagine what joy they get of of being an iligal Armin as it were. "wooo look at me, i have the same tunes as Armin van Buuren and he's #1!" dry.gif except you look like a complete utter d!ck becasue you stole them.

its people like Steve that matter here, he's the one who will ruin these people out there and it wouldnt matter if the DJ had 100 other comments saying "great stuff", it may actully be a great mix, but it isnt the point atall. at the end of the day its the same as stealing a car, all stealing is the same be it petty or not.

-simon

p.s well done Steve very cool of you B)
Frase
would help if he got the tune name right for the element
tour
QUOTE (Frase @ Jan 22 2006, 09:36 AM)
would help if he got the tune name right for the element

i heard it doesnt really matter, because that other guy was just along for the ride and didnt do anything but drink beer during production.

jk tongue.gif

yeah that makes him look even worse when he cant get half the production correct.
Redstar
QUOTE (Frase @ Jan 22 2006, 11:36 AM)
would help if he got the tune name right for the element

damn, i had a feeling that he didnt pay for the element either.. this guy keeps slipping up over and over again rolleyes.gif
Ben Bording
I wonder where he got my track from too.....

I've only given it out to friends and Markus Schulz who passed it on to Armin. And I don't suspect they would give it to him...

huh.gif
Redstar
QUOTE (Ben Bording @ Jan 22 2006, 02:18 PM)
I wonder where he got my track from too.....

I've only given it out to friends and Markus Schulz who passed it on to Armin. And I don't suspect they would give it to him...

huh.gif

well i hate to say it, but chances are, it could be leaked. id talk to armin or markus and ask who they passed this out to.

guys, if he played any of your tracks illegally, say something in one of the TA, ETN, or CC threads!
Ben Bording
QUOTE (DJ Redstar @ Jan 22 2006, 06:20 PM)
QUOTE (Ben Bording @ Jan 22 2006, 02:18 PM)
I wonder where he got my track from too.....

I've only given it out to friends and Markus Schulz who passed it on to Armin. And I don't suspect they would give it to him...

huh.gif

well i hate to say it, but chances are, it could be leaked. id talk to armin or markus and ask who they passed this out to.

guys, if he played any of your tracks illegally, say something in one of the TA, ETN, or CC threads!

yeah I know....he's a t-word
senab
While we're on the subject I just found Ronski Speed Remix of Alone Tonight on P2P. mad.gif ohmy.gif
Redstar
QUOTE (senab @ Jan 22 2006, 03:34 PM)
While we're on the subject I just found Ronski Speed Remix of Alone Tonight on P2P. mad.gif ohmy.gif

reconstruction? ive heard that the radio edit of the speed mix is out, i sent that info to the admin over a week ago. no reply from the admin yet tho.
senab
QUOTE (DJ Redstar @ Jan 22 2006, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE (senab @ Jan 22 2006, 03:34 PM)
While we're on the subject I just found Ronski Speed Remix of Alone Tonight on P2P.  mad.gif  ohmy.gif

reconstruction? ive heard that the radio edit of the speed mix is out, i sent that info to the admin over a week ago. no reply from the admin yet tho.

Hang on,

Yep, it's the Radio Edit. I'm tempted to download it.... but I won't. wink.gif
Redstar
while we're on topic of loser mp3 djs, check out this guy '3sixty'.

hes JetLag / Zer0 Gravity here from the forums. his partner LindenJ tried to threaten me out of a copy of innocent (sunny lax remix).



look at the dates, and the tracks pointed out. busted lol
senab
I've heard some of 3sixty's sets before, always thought the tracks were a bit 'new'. Bloody scumbags all of them...
Redstar
QUOTE (Moranova @ Jan 22 2006, 04:13 PM)
laugh.gif I didnt even know S&T remixed Sunrise......Thats def an illegal one right?

haha, he doesnt pay for anything he spins, so yes.

try finding the s&t remix at http://www.dance-tunes.com , i think i might have seen it there a month or so ago.
Aragon
Hahaha, Owned.

i remember back in grade 10 we got these sheets where we had to come up with viable punishments for bullies. Me and a buddies consisted of viagra filled muffins, self mutilation, breast implants, creative uses of skunks, and the wheel of misfortune tongue.gif

There should be something like that for these morons
Redstar
QUOTE (Aragon @ Jan 22 2006, 04:44 PM)
Hahaha, Owned.

i remember back in grade 10 we got these sheets where we had to come up with viable punishments for bullies. Me and a buddies consisted of viagra filled muffins, self mutilation, breast implants, creative uses of skunks, and the wheel of misfortune tongue.gif

There should be something like that for these morons

hahaha, another classic aragon tale biggrin.gif
elletek
tnx for posting this here Redstar.

hahahaa what a fool, A-Man continues to post airbase trak, as if he bought anything from 4djsonly (I wiil check that out)

Do you find it coincidence that these lowlife dj's seem to run in groups?

Now... OTeam has edited his tl at cc because he only learned that the track title has been changed since he received his illegal download, plus yamin replied at etn, speaking the truth. (I can't quote cos etn's thread is closed).

Yamin wrote: ETN THREAD
1. I did not give you my track.
2. Sander did not either.
3. It will be released under a different name, so I really don't think Armada are sending out promos with an outdated name.
Thanks buddy

There are many threads on A-Man, this is his claim to fame.

plz... all producers that had their track leaked to the unworthy dj... SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

UKTA
CC
TA
ETN thread closed
Ben Bording
yeah....I was glad that he likes it. But I still dont really want it out there yet....kinda spoils it, you know..?! sad.gif
Conor Arkins
QUOTE (Irish @ Jan 22 2006, 05:26 PM)
pwn3d.

lol indeed tongue.gif
Redstar
QUOTE (Greenwave's Trance Destiny 071 Tracklist @ ETN)
04 Deepsky vs Yilmaz Altanhan - Ghost vs Eighties (avb mashup)

unsure.gif

http://forum.etn.fm/viewtopic.php?t=1099
Aragon
QUOTE (DJ Redstar @ Jan 25 2006, 08:26 PM)
QUOTE (Greenwave's Trance Destiny 071 Tracklist @ ETN)
04 Deepsky vs Yilmaz Altanhan - Ghost vs Eighties (avb mashup)

unsure.gif

http://forum.etn.fm/viewtopic.php?t=1099

Isn't that just a..? what a retard... rolleyes.gif
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